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CeeCee Opens Up About Fear, Faith & Finally Taking Music Seriously
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CeeCee is no longer dimming her light.
Welcome back to another episode of Spin The Record - where we have conversations that hit the right note, so you can hear it, feel it and remember it.
In this episode, The Official CeeCee sits down with Marchella on Spin The Record for a conversation about music, faith, self-love, creativity, and finally stepping into the artist she has always known she could be.
CeeCee opens up about growing up around music, performing in talent shows as a little girl, expressing herself through singing, dancing, modeling, acting, fashion, hair, and makeup, and learning how to use herself as the vessel for her creativity.
She also talks about the fear that came with showing her main talent, admitting that she used to hide her voice even while showing up confidently in other creative spaces. From being shy about calling herself a singer to realizing she may have been scared of her own potential, this conversation explores what it means to stop holding yourself back and keep showing up for the higher version of yourself.
CeeCee shares how love, heartbreak, self-worth, and baptism helped shift the way she sees herself, her music, and her purpose. She talks about wanting her music to feel uplifting, empowering, joyful, peaceful, and intentional — while still leaving room for every season of life.
And when it’s time to spin the record, CeeCee performs “Come As You Are” and “Blessings,” two songs that show both sides of her sound: faith, joy, softness, confidence, and the reminder that you are allowed to come exactly as you are. Tune into the Attractive Mindset Network to catch the performance of her songs and the full episode on YouTube.
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What's up, guys? Welcome to another episode of Spin the Record, where we have conversations that hit the right notes so you can hear it, feel it, and remember it. I am your host, Marcella, and today we have our wonderful guest, CeCe. What's up, girl? Hi. How are you? I'm good. Welcome, welcome to the show. Thank you for having me. Thank you for being here. What's up? How do you feel? Excited. Excited. All right. Girl talk. Yes, a little more than girl talk. A little more than girl talk. We're gonna talk about you, talk about your beginnings, you know. Um, I definitely like to give you an opportunity to kind of share what got you to where you are now. So um, so let's go ahead and start. First of all, let's introduce our other special guest. We got Mia in the house. Say hey, Mia. All right, now that that's out the way, in case if you hear some barking, it's her, okay? Yeah, it's not us. So tell me, girl, who is Cece? Tell the world who is Cece.
SPEAKER_00Cece. I don't know. Like Girl. Okay, okay. Let's let's not be too humble for a moment, right? Um, I want to say, like, I'm someone who likes to just express myself in all ways, um, which is literally vocally first, obviously. Um, then definitely like how I did my hair, how I did my makeup, how I dressed. So I just like to just express myself in a way where you can see it.
SPEAKER_02No, creatively, artistically, using yourself as the vessel of creativity. Yes.
SPEAKER_00Okay. Um, because I'm not someone that can draw. I can color. Okay. I can color inside the lines.
SPEAKER_02But art comes in many forms. So it's not just in an artist, you know, like you ex like you said, you express yourself in your hair, your makeup, your clothes, most importantly, your music. Yes. Um, you're a singer, you're a songwriter as well. All right. So for me, I think because I can relate more to that, I feel like that is the ultimate form of expression.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02I mean, you know, artists might beg to differ, you know, artists who actually draw, but you know, um, yeah. So how long have but you're also an actress, right?
SPEAKER_00Yes, I do a little bit of everything. I want to say, like, I sing, I dance, I model, I do acting. I feel like I've gotten more into acting from the music videos. Okay. So they've been come they've been becoming more cinematic. Okay. And so they're just like, oh, we need like this type of role. And I'm like, oh, okay. And then from the roles, they started adding like some scenes where it's like talking scenes, and I'm like, okay, short film. So then from short film, I'm like, I feel like they want me more with like scripted scenes. And I'm like, okay, I can do this. And I really enjoy doing it. I don't know. There's nothing that I really don't like about it. I like putting on a show, a performance for people, especially because I know I'm very comfortable in front of the camera. So I'm just like, let's do it.
SPEAKER_02But you know, I feel like that also goes hand in hand with music because songwriting, you're yeah, it's coming from the heart, but sometimes you're also playing a role when you are writing songs, like you know, to depict certain feelings, or maybe if you're writing, you know, a story of somebody else's perspective, you know, it might not be something. What's happening in your life currently. So I think that that definitely adds a plus to you know, playing that character.
SPEAKER_00Because now you're not playing that character through words, you're using your self-expression, like yeah, and then and if even if it was a version of me, maybe, I'm finally like letting that go and not, you know, holding on to that. Like I really like. So for example, broke my heart. That was a broken-hearted girl. I'm no longer that brokenhearted girl. And like once I finally like wrote it down, put it on paper, saying it, and just like kind of put it out there. It's like now it belongs to whoever is in that, who's that broken hearted girl in that moment.
SPEAKER_02Okay, so it's like a release for you, but now it's also a form of connection for others.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02All right, that's like a memory, also. Like you staple that memory onto the song, like, okay, it's yours now. That's my footprint in the sand. Yeah. There you go. Yeah, there you go. That's what that's more what I was looking for. Your footprint. I'm like, yeah, I guess it's still a memory. Yeah, yeah. All right, so you're a little bit of everything. So, so music, how did you get into music? Did you always know you could sing, or was it something you did since a little girl?
SPEAKER_00Like, how did that start? It's definitely something I've done since I was a little girl. Um, I've always did like every talent show in my school. I never missed a talent show. None of singing and dancing? Yeah, singing and dancing. Um, you know, they'd have like some dance, like, you know, in your school, they have like some dance choreography, like they'll have something. And so I'm like, I want to be a part. I just always wanted to be a part. Uh especially like I want to say a lot of community, like anything that had to do with art. So dancing, even the drawing and stuff. I was like, I'll just paint a little something. Like, can I just be a part of that? Like, I just want to be a part. So yeah, it was always just singing and dancing on a stage.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_00Wherever they had a mic, I was there.
SPEAKER_02All right. So it was something in you that was just calling you the stage. That obviously, obviously, that's when that's what I'm saying. It was something in you that was just calling you to keep doing it.
SPEAKER_00Also, I just feel like maybe being in the crowd for so long, even I a lot of people would look at me like, why are you here? Like, they'll like look around and be like, I can hear you singing. Like, why are you in the crowd? Why are you not on the stage right now? And so I'm like, okay, like I can just try it. Cause I was in a choir class. Okay. And so they would be like, give her the solo. Like they just and I'm just like, no, there's a talent. Yeah. It was just natural. And I just went for it every time. Like, I was just like, okay, like if someone gives me a task and I feel like I can complete it, I'm just like, I'm gonna do it.
SPEAKER_02So you stamp your name on it, you're like, I got this. Yep.
SPEAKER_00Cece.
SPEAKER_02And what about what about like at home, like as a little little girl before school? Was that was anybody in your family like musically inclined, or was there something that drew you towards music, or was that just something that you yourself had the calling for?
SPEAKER_00I honestly I want to say both, because nobody can sing in my family. Okay, no break. Just like laughing to everybody because I done did my job trying to see like where did it come from? And I'm like, can you sing? Can you sing? And I'm asking everyone, and and then you know, even you know, even at family gatherings, everybody singing songs and stuff, and I'm just like, no, you guys cannot sing actually. You guys cannot hold a note, it's like you're all tone-deaf or something, and I'm like, where did I get this music talent from? So I want to say just hearing music around the house, I always just felt like I felt the B, I felt like something. And then my dad was a DJ. Okay, cool. So maybe that can play a part. Um, definitely, and my mom just always listening to 80s music, she was always listening to like Lisa Lisa, like a lot of like like kind of music. So I was like, okay, I like that. Freestyle kind of yeah, she was listening to a lot of uh freestyle, like I guess electric home house music and a lot of RB. Okay. So I guess just singing along, just hearing that in the morning.
SPEAKER_02So they they your dad being a DJ, I assume that they kind of like sprinkled that style of music that you like now.
SPEAKER_00Yes, because my dad was more into like reggae, reggaeton, like Spanish, Afro, more mixed type of music. And then my mom had like the white slash white Latin type of music. And so I just had the best of both worlds. Okay, and my dad living here in Miami and my mom living in New York, that was just always my two back and forth. So summers.
SPEAKER_02So where did you live? Okay, go ahead.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, summers were here, New York was winter. Okay, or the other way around, the other way around sometimes, but it just depended on if I was in school or not at the moment. Okay, yeah.
SPEAKER_02All right, so you grew up okay, so you had like a mix of both cultures growing up.
SPEAKER_00Growing up. Where did you go to school? Mostly in New York. Okay. Everything was New York. I did do one year of high school here in Miami, and then I went right back to New York because I'm like, I want to graduate with the people I started with. Okay. Where in New York? I went to MLK. It was like, I don't know, girl. What area I mean?
SPEAKER_02Manhattan. Okay, okay, okay. I'm like, okay. I went to PS 135. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00So yeah, I went to school in Manhattan. Um, and that was also very different for me because I'm from Brooklyn. Okay. So being from Brooklyn, it's like it can be ghetto. It's just different parts of Brooklyn and you know, who you're growing up around. Okay. Who who you're around. That's it. Okay. Manhattan was more white and yeah. And I just feel like I've seen a lot more talent there for some reason. I don't know if I it's because I went to like an art school or something like that. But I just I was around the more artsy kids. Like people that I guess wanted more, but also in that, because you know, you could still want more in nursing, you still want more in lawyer and stuff like that. But it's just like that's a whole different creative field. I don't know. It's harder that way.
SPEAKER_02So your parents put you in an art school. They saw the art, they saw that you were, you know, you had a love for it. So that's awesome. They kind of give you that push to go toward to continue. Yeah. Because that's tough. I I've spoken about this before. How some people don't have the support from their parents because they think like, you know, music is just like just like a hobby or something, and they don't take it as something serious. So that's awesome that you had that push from from young. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Um, they seem that I just didn't let it go.
SPEAKER_02All right. Yeah. All right. And you still haven't let it go. So obviously you're doing something right.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. All right.
SPEAKER_02Thanks, Mom and Dad. That's awesome. All right. So high school. High school was the music school. Then when did you like when did you start getting serious about music?
SPEAKER_00I want to say I wanna say in high school. Um, I was doing a lot of videos like on the MacBooks in school. And I was either saying, no, serious about it. I want to say I've always been serious about it, but like taking it as a career now. No? Okay.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah?
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_03I don't know.
SPEAKER_02I felt like I don't know. I I guess, you know, when I met you, I met you a few years back. I thought you were already like serious in in honestly, I didn't know that you sang, but I thought you were like serious in like I thought you were like like a content creator or something like that.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, so that's what I mean with making videos. Like I would just do that. Um, I probably had singing videos here and there, but a lot of people didn't know I sang.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_00Like a lot of people see that I was more into like the dancing or into the music videos or into like small short films, acting and stuff, but I wasn't really showing my talent. My main talent. How come? Were you like shy or something? I do think that I'm shy about that. Like honestly, I can show off in the camera of everything else that I do, but when I introduce myself to people, I probably won't tell you I'm a singer.
SPEAKER_02Why not?
SPEAKER_00I mean, do you do that now? No. Okay. Yeah. Like I introduce myself, like, hi, I'm Cece, I'm an artist. Okay. Oh, yeah. Singer songwriter. Yeah. All right, okay, okay. Now I tell them. Before I would not tell them. No, you were shy about it. Yeah, I was like, I like dimming my own light, maybe, because I didn't want to be like. I didn't want people to feel like I was always like uh fiending for attention. Or so I'm just like, I don't know. Maybe I was just in my own head about that. Definitely think so. Yeah. I think I have um imposter syndrome.
SPEAKER_02Girl, preaching to the choir over here too. Yeah, no, that's that's fair. And that's something that you definitely have to overcome. You gotta shake it. Yeah, for sure. Because, like you said, you're you're dimming your own light for no reason, especially if that's something that's your passion and that's what you love to do. Um, hopefully that's not a problem that you deal with for for too long. I mean, because you're you're you're in the process of like creating an album, right? Yes. Okay, so what hold on, because I just like hopped over stuff right there. So you're working right now, you're making music. Yes, you are putting yourself out there as an artist, as a singer. Okay, so you are introducing yourself as a singer, as an artist.
SPEAKER_00What is it that you're working on right now? Being more consistent with showing that I am an artist. Okay. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02With showing it, but you're actually doing it, not just showing it.
SPEAKER_00Yes. So doing it, I'm I feel like I'm doing a lot more behind the scenes, but I'm not showing it publicly yet. Okay. Um, I feel like I have hinted it, I've already put out my song. Like, I think people see me back in the studio um more frequently and just seeing that I'm present in my artistry, I guess. But um, yeah, I'm just like a little like I feel like I'm still shy about it. Like, like they see that um, like I said, I'm showing everything else, like just broadcasting everything else I do. But that I'm just like, I don't know.
SPEAKER_02Well, you know, I mean, I think it's inspiration too. Yeah. So like before you start putting it all out, you're doing the right thing, preparing everything so that when you do kind of like blow up, you have all this stuff that you're gonna get ready to show for it.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Um, um, that's shocking to me that you're like shy about that. Like, I I don't know. Like, I can't. Oh my god, stop.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, no, but for real, like I think that a lot of people they see that I am, I guess, very confident in every other aspect but that. And it's not like I don't think I have the talent. I know I have the talent. I just don't know. I don't know why I'm like kind of scared to show that talent. Maybe I'm just scared of my potential, even.
SPEAKER_02You know, I've heard that a lot. People say like that you're afraid of success. Um, yeah, what are you working on to kind of get over that?
SPEAKER_00Um, do you think just keep showing up? Keep showing up. That's I think that's something that I can say. Like, I'm I'm just I just keep showing up for me. For like that higher version of myself that I uh aspire to be, the little girl in me is like, oh my gosh, I want to be her. Like and you're almost there. Yeah, and I'm like looking up when I look at my pictures, even I'm like, wow, like I I am that girl that I said I wanted to be, but there's still more that I want to get to.
SPEAKER_02And then that's that's a lot of internal work also, because on the external, yes, you're seeing this is the person that you want to be, but you know that you're still kind of holding yourself back. So yeah, that's definitely a lot of internal work that needs to be done. But you're doing the right thing. You like you said, you're showing up, so you're kind of like fighting through that fear of what's next. Yeah, uh-huh. I actually was um just reading something for myself that I mean you hear it all the time, but like I don't know why this time I kind of just like felt it a little differently. Um, that everything you want is on the other side of fear. Um you know, being like this imposter syndrome person, um, a lot of times you don't want to give yourself the credit. And then you don't want to give yourself the not even just the credit, but just the um the belief that you can make it happen. Yeah, or you can or like like damn, look at all that I've done. Why can't I do this next thing? Yes. And the thing is you are already doing it. Sometimes you just You just move the goalpost.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. That's I think that's what it is for me also. Like, I I've no that I've set goals for myself, probably not actually writing them down, but I've set them in my head, and I already did it. And then I look back and I'm like, So why am I not doing that?
SPEAKER_02That's why it's important to like visually put your goals up. Like I'm telling you, but like I don't do it myself. But like my man always puts all like he writes things down, he sees it, so he's constantly reminded of what he wants to do. What you did, what you're gonna do, what yeah, that makes sense. That makes you more disciplined, also, because it you're visually looking at something that you you're aiming for, you know, instead of just like, oh yeah, it's it's there, it's there. I'll do tomorrow. Yeah, and then giving yourself a timeline too, like that shit is fucking tough.
SPEAKER_00It is it's hard, but like you said, that key word is discipline. Yeah. Literally. How do you feel you are when it comes to discipline in your music? Or in just yourself in general? So with myself, I feel like I'm doing pretty good with everything. But when it comes to music, it's like dang, like that's where I feel like I'm struggling at. Um, because it's trying to juggle life and trying to be this artist because I want obviously I feel like I want to show my best self, but like you have to just show up still no matter what's going on in your life. So how bad do you really want it? Yeah, yeah, that's tough. And writing it down, like you said, just writing it down, and that is like that could be the testimony in itself.
SPEAKER_02The song that could turn into a song, exactly. Yeah, do you journal? I do a lot. Yeah, I used to, I don't journal anymore, but journaling is definitely a release, and like when you journal, you see she's like, oh, I should turn that into a song.
SPEAKER_00Like that's it, that's it. Or you know, when you read back on it, depending on where you were then versus where you are now, you're like, wow, like I did overcome a lot too. So that's another way to kind of battle that imposter syndrome.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, you're like, girl, that's nothing. Look what you already did. So uh just that that kind of just made me want to ask a question when it comes to music and and songwriting. How how do you come up with songs? Like, how is what is your songwriting style?
SPEAKER_00Process. Um I feel like it's been changing because I recently have been in the studio and doing like line for line. Like kind of what comes to me in that moment, how I'm feeling. So like freestyling? Yes, on the beat. Um, but majority of the time when I just feel like it, it sometimes it is just journaling. I'm just writing. Then I'll probably find a beat and place it on it and then move it. Or my main favorite style of writing is listening to the beat, listening to the beat, finding flows, melodies, and writing the song how I hear it already. That's like my favorite way of putting it.
SPEAKER_02Because it comes out more organic. I mean, there's no right or wrong way, right? You know, um, but I do, I think that is a very common way that people do when they like they just and then whatever comes out and then they put some shit to it. So, like, yeah, because I for me that's my favorite way to listen to beats and kind of just like let the beat talk to you, let it listen to you. Yeah, so I I understand.
SPEAKER_00So do you, okay, so with that, do you automatically start writing um to the beat how it's making you feel in that moment?
SPEAKER_02Sometimes. Sometimes words come out, sometimes words don't come out. Okay. But I think for for me, it's it's important to let the beat talk to you and establish the feeling. Okay, once I got the feeling, then boom, I'm going with this.
SPEAKER_00That's just the way you're gonna just go about the song.
SPEAKER_02And then whatever comes out, like melodies come out, and or maybe a line will come out and then I'll go from there. I don't know, girl. It's always different. It's always different.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it is always different.
SPEAKER_02But what you mentioned is doing the line by line, um, I used to freestyle a lot. Okay, but I feel like I used to freestyle a lot because I I I used to drink a lot. So when I would drink, like you just freestyle. But there was the first time that I saw somebody do the line by line thing, like they record one line and then they okay, bring it back. Let that line like trigger something else. I was like, what is that? Like I had never seen somebody do it that way. Yeah, because that also is basically a form of freestyling. Like, yeah, yeah, I think that was um that was pretty interesting.
SPEAKER_00And it also makes it harder for you to remember your song that way, though. Yeah, at least for me. At least for me, it makes me it makes it harder for me to remember my song that way because if I'm only just doing line for line, like I I don't think I'm writing a complete song until it's completed, if that makes sense.
SPEAKER_02And does it does it make sense? Is it cohesive?
SPEAKER_00It's supposed to. It's supposed to. It's supposed to. It's supposed to. I I would hope so. Oh, that's funny. Yeah, I don't know. But you can go in different directions just because, like, that next bar, um, the way the melody is going or something, it just might trigger something else.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah, yeah. And again, no right or wrong way of writing, everybody has their own sound. That's what makes music unique to your own sound. That's how you know that's a CC sound, that's a whoever sound, yeah. So, what is your sound? Ooh. What is your sound? Um, do you do pop RB?
SPEAKER_00Do you do house? I lean more towards RB because I'm just like love. Okay. I love love, so that's something I do like to talk about. Um, I have had my heart broken lots of times, but I always still find like the love in it somehow, some way.
SPEAKER_02So I mean, when you love love, you're just gonna keep on looking for for another reason to love, you know, regardless of how many times your heart gets broken.
SPEAKER_00Because love is a beautiful thing, and you just can't be scared of it. That's something I I always told people, like growing up. I'm like, why are you scared to get in a relationship or something? Like, you have to know that love hurts sometimes. Yeah. And so that's okay too.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, but it's like it shouldn't. It shouldn't, but you know, when people do get their heart broken, it's easy for them to kind of like almost have trauma from that, so to speak, you know, and like, you know what, I didn't like this feeling. I'm gonna prevent it from happening again. Yeah, and they just and then they shelter their heart and then they end up having a fucking cold heart, you know. So it's like it sucks. I can understand why, but right. Um, I guess the beautiful thing about love is just giving your all anyway, and just knowing that you're that's your best. Right, right. Yeah, but at least you're you still believe in love. Oh, I love love.
SPEAKER_00I still believe in like princess and princes and fairy tales and I want my parents back together, all of that.
SPEAKER_01Oh So cute. No, I do.
SPEAKER_00I do.
SPEAKER_02So do you so most of your songs are love songs?
SPEAKER_00Somehow, somehow. I I want to say more love than heartbreak. Um, I I feel like I have talked, like touched on the topic of heartbreak a lot, but I always switch the song like back to but this is how I moved on from it.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_02And on a positive note.
SPEAKER_00Yes.
SPEAKER_02So somebody's going through a heart, but like, don't worry, child. You can get it.
SPEAKER_00Don't worry, it's fine.
SPEAKER_02Like, literally, the storm will pass. Always. Always. Everything is temporary. That's it. Yeah. Okay. So CeCe is working on um an EP right now. Yes. Alright. Do you know like when we're gonna expect this EP? Oh my god. Oh my god. Um, I don't know.
SPEAKER_00We're in May already.
SPEAKER_02How far along are you? Like, how how has that process been? Just making the EP. You've released songs in the past, right? Yes. Okay, how many songs? Like a lot or like a few?
SPEAKER_00I'm gonna say probably altogether like five of my own. And then more covers. I was more like a cover girl. I was just like, I wanted you to hear my voice on this type of track. Okay. Just to show the diversity. Um, that was it. All right.
SPEAKER_02So in your in your trajectory of taking artistry serious, like in music, when did you start releasing music? Was it recent?
SPEAKER_00Um, I think my first drop ever of a song was 2012. Oh wow, girl, you were like five. Yeah. So I remember um telling someone, hey, I just want to record a cover, like, Can I use your studio? And it was in their house, in a closet. And they were like, Yeah, but they were really good at what they were doing. Like, you can find the sound on SoundCloud. And it was a it was um Miley Cyrus Wreckin' Ball cover. Okay, wow. And that was like 2012, yeah. And that was like that was a big song, and I also feel like I possibly was like going through something very similar at the time, that that's why I'm like, I want to cover that song.
SPEAKER_02Okay. When did you release your first original song? 20 This girl, I don't want to release it. Like five years ago, more than five years ago?
SPEAKER_00Well, if we're talking about like just on all platforms now. Okay, but if we're talking about like ever, I also probably want to say 2012, 2013, and it was called Crush, my first crush. I was talking about my first crush, like damn, but that's a long time ago. But that's would you say that's when you already started taking it serious? Okay, yes, in a way, because I was um signed with someone, and I don't because I was I was underage, I didn't know what was going on. All I knew was I had to go up to the studio, make a song. That's all I knew I had to do.
SPEAKER_02Wow. So you were signed and you don't know what the hell was going on. How did you get in that situation? Um How'd you get out of that situation? Let's talk about that. Hold on, that's big. You were signed to like what?
SPEAKER_00Not like a label, more like a management situation. They were yeah, more like a management situation. They were also um I want to say they were supposed to be putting me in rooms and stuff, but I don't really feel like anything really came from that because I feel like I would have been a lot further than I am now. But I feel like a lot of the stuff at that time I did myself. Like I had to put in that that footwork still. Um, because which is expected with anything anyway. Yeah, but me being a child and not knowing too much about the industry and stuff or like anything musically that was more business um side of it, I didn't know. I was just I'm just singing. So they were supposed to be holding your hand and you didn't get that from them.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00So what they just sign you just to sign you for fun? Um, for money, I'm pretty sure. Okay. Yeah, my mom was paying that. Sorry, mom. Your mom paid them to sign you? Yeah, like she was like paying whatever for like studio time, I guess. And like okay. So okay, I get it. I get it.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. So your mom was an investor in that. And that, yeah. And then your your that person was your manager. And but they weren't managing you properly. Okay, so they fumbled the ball and you guys were like, we're not doing this no more.
SPEAKER_00Um, no, I finally just let that contract end. Okay. Um, my mom also, I feel like she finished whatever payments had to be paid off, but that was it. Did you feel like I didn't know. I was I was way too young. Like how old were you? Like 15?
SPEAKER_02Under that. Oh my god. So you were a little jit for real.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, no, like I really didn't know what was going on. I just knew I had to sing.
SPEAKER_02Okay. All right, all right. So then that was one phase. Wow. So that was super early in your life.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02But you were, I guess, you know, taking it serious at that time. Yes. Obviously, you had a manager or whatever. Um, someone who clearly didn't know what they were doing. Um, so then once you were like on your own, when did you start taking it serious again?
SPEAKER_00Again would be now. Cause I want to say between 2016 and now, I was really more focused on relationships. Like, cause I love love. I really wanted love first and then career after. Okay. And then when I sit back and look at it, it's like, no, you should have had your career first, and then love comes. Yeah. Well, I'm glad you realized that because I kind of wait on it. It's okay to wait on it. And yeah, and get your your goals, dreams, and aspirations first.
SPEAKER_02You gotta pour into yourself first, and then everything will come after. Exactly. You know, unfortunately, sometimes you don't realize that, you know, right away, and that's okay as long as you continue loving yourself. I think that's a big um, that's a big thing to learn because we seek that love that we want so bad in someone else.
SPEAKER_00And it's like it's not there, it's in you.
SPEAKER_02In you, right? You know, self-love is the best love. You know, remember when like self-love was like, oh my god, self-love this, self-love that.
SPEAKER_00But like, yeah, yeah, like self-love really is everything. Yeah, I think people probably looked at that like a trend, but it's like, no, you literally need to love yourself first, and that's how you that's how you will then know how to love others properly. Yeah. So yeah.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Um, that is that is a big realization though, and that's like that's you know, that's that's cool to be aware of that and be like, yeah, I wanted this before. Like, obviously, you still want love, but I guess you are not looking for it.
SPEAKER_00And you're most more focused on you and your career. Pouring into myself, pouring into my music, everything that I ever like went through, I will be talking about it on a lot of my songs. Okay. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02All right, so you're you're that's what the EP that you're working on now. Yes. Um, let me ask you, because I, you know, I don't know you like that, um, but you know, Rich, Rich, my man, is your manager. Um, and I think I heard him mention, you know, along the lines that you're like, you're becoming more more godly as well, right? So do you do you I mean, of course, all glory, all credit goes to God, you know? But do you feel like those realizations and those changes that you're making now have something to do with you becoming more religious? Yes.
SPEAKER_00I do want to say once I got baptized, which is August 6th, 2025, it was like a whole shift happened. I don't know. A whole shift happened. Um, and I just started realizing a lot of things that I don't know, like I just opened my eyes to a lot of things that I never once opened my eyes to, especially self-love. Like, I probably thought that I I already had that within myself, but always trying to look for it somewhere else that's make that's how you know like you didn't really something was still missing. Um yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02So being baptized and now giving your life to Christ to Christ obviously has changed things in you. Everything find that it changed your music as well.
SPEAKER_00Um, I wanna say yes. Yes and no, because um Broke My Heart is probably the only song that I actually like ever cursed in. Um, I don't really curse in my music. I don't like to curse in my music. I don't really like to curse when I speak. Um whoops. I'm over here cursing over sore. I'm like, no, but but you know, that's that's you. Like me, I don't know. I feel like I never just like cursing.
SPEAKER_02I don't think she's a lady, y'all. She's a lady.
SPEAKER_00I'm I'm growing up to be more ladylike, also. Um, I don't know if that will change. Cause obviously I've cursed before. I've cursed a lot. I've cursed people out.
SPEAKER_02But um like we were saying earlier, I'm saved, not soft.
SPEAKER_00I'm saved, not soft. So I don't want people to think I have a perfect life either, because I don't think anybody's life is perfect, literally, but Jesus. Um, so it's just like, I don't know. I don't know what I don't know what's in store. Like, I don't even know what's in store. It's literally like whatever he gives to me creatively, even because it's like, yeah, it comes from me, but it comes from him.
SPEAKER_02So do you feel like do you feel now that you have not that you didn't have God on your side before, right now, but now that you are walking more intentionally with God, do you feel that do you what am I trying to say? Like, do you feel stronger about where you're gonna go musically? Oh, um yeah, I wanna say yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, but what do you feel is different? Um just being intentional. Like with whatever I do put out, just being intentional.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I definitely most of my music I want to feel like uplifting and like empowering, and yeah, I just want you to feel good. I really want you to feel good. I want everybody to feel good.
SPEAKER_02That's actually a a question that I like to ask all of our guests. Like, when someone listens to your music, what do you want them to feel?
SPEAKER_00Like, what do you want them to damn after I heard that I feel inspired for sure? I want you to feel like you can dance. I want you to feel like you can sing along. I want you to feel like just joy, happy, like peaceful, even. Because I feel like a lot of my sounds are gonna be super different too. Like, I don't think it's gonna know. Yeah. Um, and that's just because you know, we go through seasons. And so there's gonna be times where it's like some dry, like sad-ish seasons. Of course. And then there's gonna be times where you're just like, yes, we're gonna have it in a ball, like, yes, go outside, take some shots. But yeah.
SPEAKER_02You you know, like when people say like um stick to one genre or like stick to one. I feel like they're putting me in a box. So, do you like do you feel like you have a genre? Because you just said like your songs sound different. So, like a little bit of everything, a little bit of everything. What can we expect on this EP that's coming? Oof.
SPEAKER_00I think uh a main thing would be like RB pop. Okay. RB pop right now. Do you know what song you're gonna perform? I have Blessings Income As You Are. Okay. All right, so tell us about these songs. So Blessings was um a challenge song for me. I wanted to challenge myself to see if I could do a different genre. The genre is more like a reggae feel.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_00So I was like, let's see if I could do that. And I think I bodied it. Okay, I really did body that. All right, we gonna see. We're just gonna We is gonna see. Um, so yeah, I think I really bodied that one, and then I have Come as You Are, which is like more fun, but it's also like faith-based or faith-like. Okay, because it's like come as you are, like literally, like he made us in this image. So So accept it. Or don't.
SPEAKER_02Or don't. Yeah, but just come as you are, but do because he does. So and you wrote these songs, yes. Okay, all right. What was that writing process like? Especially for the one that's like something different.
SPEAKER_00Oh yeah, that one, I went line for line. Okay, but line for line, not in straight in the studio. I was listening to the beat all day. I want to say for it took me about two hours to write it. Okay, yeah, it took me about two hours to write it.
SPEAKER_02All right, so you went line for line and then you recorded it.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and I was like voice memoing it. Okay.
SPEAKER_02I was like, I got it here.
SPEAKER_00I was like, okay, write this video.
SPEAKER_02That goes good. Okay, all right, cool. That's interesting. That that whole line for line process. I mean, I guess everybody goes line for line when you think about it, because you're like, even when you're writing it, yeah. Yeah, I don't know. It's just like a different concept for me.
SPEAKER_00So I guess it's just like no, but in studio, it's so different. Cause then I feel like sometimes maybe rappers do that, but as a singer, it is a little bit harder.
SPEAKER_02It is I don't know. I just I guess I gotta try it one day. For me, it's just like why? I don't know. Again, no right or wrong way. I just try it. Yeah, I guess I'll try it one day. And these songs are gonna be on the EP. Yes. That's coming out soonish. Soonish. Do you think it'll be by this year?
SPEAKER_00Yes, for sure. All right, cool. Yeah, no, we gotta get it that we gotta get it out this year.
SPEAKER_02All right, well, that's exciting. All right, so we know what to expect first from CC. Do you know? Um, can you tell us like what you have going on other than the EP? Like, what are you doing? Are you performing? Are you are you in any movies or anything like that? Like, what do you have coming up? Are you that you're allowed to talk about or anything?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I'm about to um go to my blue. This girl got a this girl got a whole calendar. No, look, no, it's a catalog like of things I've been in. Okay. So I'm just yeah. Um so there's a sh there's two short films I'm in. I'm in a vampire film. Um, I'm trying to think of the name right now. I don't have the name here. But I'm in vampi I'm in a vampire film. And then I have um Chasing Ghost. That's another film I'm in. Okay. And I have speaking lines there. So all right.
SPEAKER_02She's not just modeling there, y'all.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, that was a little a little fun. And then I don't know if I could talk about this one. Don't talk about it. But there's a a movie that's uh actually a really big movie. Um, and I think I'm like in a scene of it. It's like a really big movie that came out like a long time ago, and a lot of people have watched it, and I I didn't know they were making a part two, and so I believe that this is like a part two to it. Okay, yeah. So hopefully I'm in it when it does come out.
SPEAKER_02All right, well, y'all stay tuned. CeC might be on the big on the big screen. On the big screen, I might, I might. Just my oh, that's exciting. That's exciting.
SPEAKER_00But if not, we're still gonna be on the big screen. Yeah, that's right. Still see me on your TV, CC on TV.
SPEAKER_02Cece, tell us, you know, what else? Is there anything else that you want us to know or want the world to know?
SPEAKER_00Still got no kiss, still single. Um, no. Um, I don't know. Why are you looking at your phone, girl? Cause I'm like, like, what do I not talk about?
SPEAKER_02Just what's in your heart? What do you want to say? What's in your mind?
SPEAKER_00God loves everyone. God loves you. God loves you, God loves you. Um no, literally, just be yourself. Um, and what's for you is for you. What's meant for you be meant for you. And that's it. Like that's really how I feel. You just feel happy. Yes, I'm always happy. I love that for you. Yes, I I feel like we always need to be happy because you just never know what anyone's going through. Yeah. And so, you know, show up for you, and you never know, like who else needs you in the moment. Just smile.
SPEAKER_01She seems so happy, like just be you, just be you. Yeah, that's cute, CC.
SPEAKER_00I think a lot of people like um fake it and the mask then slips and shows, and then people are like, what happened? But it's like that wasn't them.
SPEAKER_02You know, that's I think that's something that I mean with with anything, but I feel like in the music industry, especially, you deal with that a lot. And then you being, you know, a pretty girl, uh, a pretty woman. Um, I think that's hard to kind of like see through the mask. And then you it makes it hard to trust. Do you find those issues dealing, you know, in the music industry? Because like there's a lot of producers and engineers, or sorry guys, but it's the truth. It is the truth. They act like they're like, oh yeah, can't wait to work with you. And then whole time they have other agendas, ulterior motives, or something like that. I already know that's something you probably struggle with. How do you navigate that? That's why I got Rich as my manager.
SPEAKER_00If you know Rich, he don't play. He don't play, and he don't play about his woman, and he don't play about his little sis. No, but seriously, um, I always just felt like I wanted a man around just so people know not to play. Like, just don't. Like, don't even try. Like a security. Yeah, yeah. Basically, like a security, but also for him to even see himself like, you know, I'm not even like flirting with these people, and they're that's just their motive. Like, that's just how they are. And I'm just like, why is this a thing?
SPEAKER_02Like, if they're nice, you know, people misinterpret that, you know.
SPEAKER_00I can say that that people do do that, and but I don't want to be like the B-word, or I don't want to be mean because that's just not me. I feel like um I shouldn't have to change who I am because you didn't understand it properly. Yeah, and I feel like I'm very direct. Like, if you were to ask me, like, hey, do you like me? I'd be like, no. Or in that way, you know. Um, and also I feel like you would know if I didn't like you, even just like as a friend, because I wouldn't be around you. I I can't fake that. Yeah, like I can't fake that. Like, I would just not be around you. I don't want to be around negative energy. I don't want to be around where I even feel uncomfortable. I I just won't show. Fair. But I also will let you know first. I'll probably let you know the first time, and then after that, it's like my energy, my presence will speak for itself.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah, I could feel that. No, but yeah, that's important. That's definitely important, and especially to set your boundaries and from early, like you said, be direct. Um, and that's a big struggle, unfortunately, for a lot of women in the industry, and that whole like me too movement in any industry, in the acting industry. So it's it's definitely something um that I I hate to say it, but it's it's common. Yeah. Um, but yeah, I feel like there's a lot more power in women now in the industry as well. I feel like um there's a lot more like woman producers, women engineers, yes, I love that. And yeah, I mean, women run the world. We got this. Like we could do it.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I just feel like a lot of women need to speak out more as well. Um, and I feel like maybe that's why I'm here too. Um, because I'm not someone that likes to shut my mouth about things. I'm someone, not that I'm gonna run my mouth about everything, but there are certain topics that people need to touch on that is not being spoken about. And it's like, like you were saying, like just in the industry, even um, you know, producers and trying to be with artists or you know, just like trying to take advantage of women, period. And it's just like for what? Like, what is the gain at the end of the day for you? I mean but then okay, after that, after that, after that.
SPEAKER_02So then it's just like, okay, thanks.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it's kind of fucked up. I think it's corny. Yeah. But money can't only word, right?
SPEAKER_02Guys think like, oh, I got money. She wants, I mean, hey, you know, it it'll money has and social media and you know, status that definitely a lot of people like exactly that, you know. So like I'm not saying it's right. I can understand why they might think that like, oh, money can't unlay me, but they want my money, you know? And I think there's some women like that too, you know. I just I think it's a mentality because of this era, I guess. I don't know if I can. It's just social media.
SPEAKER_00It's just social media. I feel like people need to go back outside and have social interaction because they just think because you have a certain amount of followers or something, like you're a certain way. And not everybody's like that. Because I feel like growing up, I've always I've always had followers on social platforms, and when people meet me in person, it's like they have this whole different like identity of me. Like they're just like, no, she's actually cool as fuck.
SPEAKER_02Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_00Ooh.
SPEAKER_02Oh girl, relax.
SPEAKER_00Ooh. Sorry. Um, but yeah, like I'm I'm actually really cool. And a lot of people may have this perception of me because they see what they see online. But you meet me and you know, like I think that's with everything though.
SPEAKER_02People create their own images of you, and that's you're this person in their head. Yes. No matter what. Yes. Unless, you know, they meet you up. But even still, when people meet you, they still have an image of you, of what they think you are, you know. But like that's why it's so important to be real with yourself and know who you are, not who other people think you are. So And I think you have, you know, a solid um understanding of that, at least more now from what it seems like. I guess from that you did in the past. Um, but that's, you know, it's a part of growing up and knowing thyself, you know, and becoming more grounded in who you are. So I think that you are um, I think you're becoming more of you.
SPEAKER_00Ah, yeah, it's like literally just becoming a woman. I think that's literally all it is. I feel like I was very like girly and teeny, and but now like becoming a woman is like girl, bossa. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02I love that. And then you are finding that in your music too, and then with God, you know, which is most important. So I'm happy for you. I'm excited for your growth. Um, yeah. Well, I feel like you know, we got to know we got to know CeC a little better. Yes. Um, and yeah, I'm just like, I'm looking forward to see to hear your EP. I'm excited to hear your songs right now. Yes. Um, anything else you want to add to the world? No. No, just your smile, just your pretty little smile. Well, CC, I got one more question for you. Super important. Okay. You have to answer it, okay? Are you ready to spin the record? Yes, let's spin the all right. Give me a high five. That's how we do it.
SPEAKER_03Yay!
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